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I’ve been an entrepreneur since I was 16 years old. I started investing and playing poker when I was 17 years old. One day I skipped school because I bought warrants for 1 200 USD and I wanted to monitor the situation. Within 3 hours I made $5 000. I sold it quickly and went to school. During a sociology class in high school, I played heads up for $1 000. I lost, but it was fun, and my friends were watching. I know about the “urge” to earn money quick. It gives a kick; your adrenaline starts pumping through your veins. It becomes an addiction. It even get’s fun to lose money. This is very dangerous.

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I must admit that I see a lot of the same “rookies” in our community on Workplace. My guess is that many of our members are chasing profits on a daily basis and get kicks out of watching the prices move up and down. I cannot blame them either, as I was, and probably is, like that myself. I’ve always been impatient. It has been both a blessing and a curse. It has made me a lot of money, it has made me lose more money, it has made me miss huge gains and I’ve been struggling with FOMO (fear of missing out).

Also read: Dealing With The Fear Of Missing Out

Humans aren’t wired to trade

I believe that humans aren’t made to trade. It’s not something we have in our DNA. It is something we must learn how to do, and how to disconnect our human emotions. People that lose a trade tend to risk more on the second trade to earn back what they already lost and then some. It’s a far too common mistake, which I have done myself many times. You have to be able to disconnect your emotions and to follow a strict strategy that you stick to no matter what. You are allowed to change your strategy and tactics, but that should not be something you do daily.

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My biggest mistake?

I sold all my bitcoins (800) in 2015 when they were at their lowest (200 USD). I made a lot of money on trading cryptocurrencies, but I was too obsessed with it. I was watching the charts daily (like most of you are doing now). And when the prices started to gain traction in 2016, you can believe I felt an intense FOMO. However, I had decided not to go back in as I wouldn’t want to become obsessed with the charts once again. If I had invested my bitcoins in ethereum in 2015, I would have had more than 50 000 000 million USD today. Chew on that for a few seconds.

But I’ve realized that I didn’t need to watch the charts on a daily basis. I could simply have told myself that: “I want to hold these bitcoins for three years no matter what.” Or that I wanted to buy ethereum for all my bitcoins and then leave them for four years or more. Then I would be able to disconnect myself from the daily charts and probably have reached “financial freedom” by the age of 26.

As you might imagine, it has been hard to see that your prediction back in 2014 and 2015 came through, bitcoin reached 3000 USD, and ethereum is killing it. I’ve been working with myself on getting over the fact that I could have made 50 000 000 USD. What comforts me is that these opportunities happen all the time. I know there’s thousands of investors that have experienced the same. Not only with cryptocurrencies, but with stocks (look at Tesla), commodities and so forth.

You don’t earn money; you steal money

Another interesting aspect of trading and investing is that you are not making money on good trades or investments. You are taking money from other traders and investors. The price of bitcoin is purely based on supply and demand. I bet you can find a person that wants to sell you a bitcoin for 10 000 USD, if you buy that bitcoin then it is worth 10 000 USD. But you have to be able to sell it again to capitalize on the asset.

Investing and trading are money changing hands. Nothing more, nothing less. Money isn’t created, money isn’t lost.

What I’ve learned

The most important lesson I can teach you is to have patience.

HPS! (Have Patience Stupid!)

Create a strategy that you think will win, and stick to it. Don’t be obsessed and follow the charts minute by minute, it will only drive you crazy. When I talk about patience, it could be one-year horizon or even a ten-years horizon. Not a daily horizon. We have a famous saying in Norway:

TTT (Ting tar tid = Things take time)

Members ask me why we don’t have more trading recommendations on hacked.com. We could make tens of thousands of trading recommendations every day, but how good would they be? Opportunities in the market aren’t something that appears on demand. We do not want to give our members recommendations that are destined to fail. As I’ve explained previously; never lose money.

Also read: Never lose money

What I’m doing now

I’ve managed to distance myself from being obsessed with trading, whether it’s trading cryptocurrencies or CFDs on IG (e.g.). It has made me more happier, more comfortable and less stressed. That is an important factor to take into account for creating a good life.

Also read: What makes a good life?

I’m more experienced, more patient, more intelligent. I’ve learned the hard way, and you should learn from what I’ve done (and not done). Now I’m only focusing on the following:

  1. Increase my monthly income
  2. Invest 33% of my monthly income in different assets (see the 33% club)
  3. Reduce stressful projects and schemes
  4. Spend more time with family and friends (still working on this)
  5. Start working out and eat healthier (still working on this)

Since I stopped trading on a daily basis, I’ve become a lot happier and satisfied with my life. I was able to take a breather and shift my focus. Hacked.com and its community is a direct outcome of my shift in focus. And I’m glad that so many members enjoy our information and that I can at least help a few people to avoid the same mistakes I’ve made.

When that is said, I’m not saying it’s bad to day trade, but you need to follow a strict strategy that you stick to and not let your human emotions decide for you. I will most likely return to day trading when I get more time, but I’ll do it differently next time.

In this article I talk mostly about trading and investing, but the same rules can be applied to entrepreneurship and starting your own business. Patience is as important here.

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  1. RH2302

    June 18, 2017 at 1:20 pm

    As always, good material to think about and act towards.

    I think you are right by saying people aren’t born to trade. Even though I am aware of all the stress trading can give you and how to counter it, I still feel it.

    Reading this enables me to take a look from a different perspective. It gives me trust that, in due time, everything will fall In it’s place.

    Having sold a bunch of LTC a week prior to this increase suddenly doesn’t feel that relevant anymore.

    Thank you for this

    • Jonas Borchgrevink

      June 18, 2017 at 1:28 pm

      I’m glad to hear that. Thank you.

  2. visiondream3

    June 18, 2017 at 1:46 pm

    Great insight Jonas. I held on to my ltc (based on your community recommendation) even when it was dead for a while. I had thoughts in between to sell it and move on, but I stayed put because I was curious to see where it would be in a month, and thankfully now it paid off. Well said Jonas! It’s all about patience and not having the herd mentality. I usually trade with 24 hour charts with oversold and overbought conditions and that gives me peace of mind not having to stare at the chart for hours. It gives sufficient time to react eventhough we may miss the absolute tops and bottoms!

  3. bitsurfer

    June 18, 2017 at 4:58 pm

    Well said.. looking at the charts everyday is stressful!! ? It slowly yet drastically takes focus from the more important things, on an hour to hour basis.

  4. Tyson Gray

    June 18, 2017 at 6:27 pm

    This is good advice Jonas. I like your saying in Norway, Ting tar tid. 🙂

    • Jonas Borchgrevink

      June 18, 2017 at 7:11 pm

      Hehe, thank you 🙂

  5. Ritesh Sheth

    June 18, 2017 at 7:34 pm

    Hey Thanks a lot, But an monthly recommendation chart of few alt coins will be highly appreciated , So that No need to look at the chart daily. Ha ha.
    Great work, Thanks.

  6. NYoo

    June 19, 2017 at 12:35 am

    Am I just too much of a newbie? I love looking at charts every day, it’s so much fun. And I made more money last month than all of last year. I find day trading more predictable, less risky and much more fun than what I was doing before: running a fashion company. That was incredibly stressful and with little reward. Because of the fashion timeline, I was investing hundreds of thousands of dollars for a potential return that may or not may come 8-10 months ahead of time. For my last two seasons, I started a new brand direction that I knew was right for the collection – it cost my business 30% of our revenues. Without the cash reserves from my business partner’s investment, we would have gone under.

    There’s a lot I miss about having my own fashion brand but overall with day trading I am happier and more certain about my financial future.

    Fyi, I transfer all my profits on a daily basis. Also, I check the charts at 3-4x a day now, at high points and low points. If it’s an exciting day then I check more often. Working pretty well so far…

    • Jonas Borchgrevink

      June 19, 2017 at 7:38 am

      I wish you all the best, but you are in for a hell of a ride I guess. Or maybe you are one in a million “born to trade” 😉

    • porcupine1967

      June 19, 2017 at 2:55 pm

      I’m such a newbie as well but I do know to never get emotional over stocks.

  7. porcupine1967

    June 19, 2017 at 2:53 pm

    I think if you follow the advice of Gordon Geckko you cannot go far wrong.

  8. NYoo

    June 20, 2017 at 2:00 am

    Haha, omg, I laughed out loud about “one in a million.” I seriously doubt it. Most of the time I have no idea what’s going on with the charts or the prices. It’s just this is the funnest thing I’ve ever done to make money (btw, I’ve lost a lot of money too…). I loved designing lingerie but sometimes the thought of outputting more products into this world made with toxic processes was just too much. Plus, I like the energy of cryptos and everything this world stands for.

  9. Tommy

    June 20, 2017 at 7:46 am

    good reading. im just in the “starting” phase of cryptocurrency trading myself. Think i’ve probably done my fair share of the rookie mistakes already, emotions, fear of missing out, waking up waay early to check the charts. And feeling and immense impatience when seing negative numbers, to quickly sell.
    now the last week ive stressed out a hell of a lot less, and just put in a few high sale orders, to make sure not to miss the pumps/whales roaming the altcoins lately. and slowly and a little more steady, ive almost recovered my loss in 1 week. So now i’m going for more mid-long term with about 75% of it. and using only 25% for day to day fun trading.
    this subscripiton to this page, has already paid itself 🙂

  10. P. H. Madore

    June 24, 2017 at 11:38 pm

    Two days ago I had some change in a trading account, invested it all into something that had a lot of value, drunkenly, which I had no other information about. Then I put it for sale at 300% the cost, and four days later discovered I had profited. I took these profits, converted them to dogecoin, and further gambled that (dice, bitsler) up another 1000%, pushed it back into the trading account, converted it to .25 bitcoins. I had a lot of fun but I’m fully aware it hardly ever works this way. Patience is important, and I lack it more than most. I’d be a billionaire if I had the patience I desire to have, as you would be a mult-millionaire.

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Searching for the Meaning of Life in Dubai

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Last week I traveled to Dubai with a group of people in Wilhelmsen, where I work as a Digital Trainee, for our third module in Design Thinking with Pracademy. We are a group of 24 people which Wilhelmsen considers to be Leadership Potentials. We are fortunate to be a part of this year’s company program, and we have all learned so much about ourselves. In this post, I will try to communicate what we learned during last week’s module. Be aware that this is a four months program, and it’s hard to get the feeling of it by just reading about it. But I hope I can share some of the knowledge that I acquired and get you more interested in improving your own life.

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Find your passion and go all in!

Most motivators and teachers say that you need to find your passion, make work a hobby that you enjoy every single day. I have even caught myself saying that over and over again (on Hacked). However, as I learned during the sessions in Dubai, more than 80% of us do not know what their passion is. I started to wonder if I knew what my passion is. And I’m still insecure about that. I do know that I want to contribute to the world, I want to help and serve people. I want to create things that I know other people will love; I want to leave a footprint on this earth.

I often have this mind experiment where I picture myself as 80 years old with bad health in my nursing home. Do I think that I managed to get the most out of life? Am I satisfied with all the things I achieved? Or do I have regrets and feel remorseful? The goal for every person on this earth is to be satisfied with your life when you’re near the end. I guess most people aren’t in reality. And that’s a big shame. Some people might regret that they worked too much, had too little fun, too few good experiences with their loved ones, too few memorable memories.

I pray that I will be happy with my life and what I accomplished.

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How to find your passion

If you do not know what your true passion is, there’s still hope for you. You can spend years trying to find your ultimate passion. Think of what makes you happy, what you enjoy or care for. My strong passion for creating things started in my childhood. I always drew new inventions on a piece of paper and started small kid businesses. I played music; I was a drummer in a nu-metal band, I started to sing and rap and create songs. I painted and used my creative skills to visualize my thoughts. I traveled during holidays and experienced new cultures, new food. Oh, I love good food. I love cooking a great meal for family and friends.

I could probably achieved anything that I had/have passion for. I could have been a:

  • Cook
  • Artist
  • Painter
  • Drummer
  • Entrepreneur

I chose to become an entrepreneur mostly due to financial possibilities. As being financially independent was and is very high on my priority list. But that does not mean that I wouldn’t have a meaningful life being an artist with less money on my hands.

Economist Angus Deaton and psychologist Daniel Kahneman researched happiness and money in 2009 where the focus was on US standards, and it’s population:

So, where does the $75,000 come into play? Researchers found that lower income did not cause sadness itself but made people feel more ground down by the problems they already had. The study found, for example, that among divorced people, about 51% who made less than $1,000 a month reported feeling sad or stressed the previous day, while only 24% of those earning more than $3,000 a month reported similar feelings. Among people with asthma, 41% of low earners reported feeling unhappy, compared with about 22% of the wealthier group. Having money clearly takes the sting out of adversities.

At $75,000, that effect disappears. For people who earn that much or more, individual temperament and life circumstances have much more sway over their lightness of heart than money. The study doesn’t say why $75,000 is the benchmark, but “it does seem to me a plausible number at which people would think money is not an issue,” says Deaton. At that level, people probably have enough expendable cash to do things that make them feel good, like going out with friends. (The federal poverty level for a family of four, by the way, is $22,050.)

So if you live in the US, a goal for financial freedom could be $75 000 or $100 000 as income per year. If you make more than that, you won’t necessarily become happier just because of the money.

However, if you make too much money and you are in an in-group where your peers make much less than you do, you can be in a situation where jealousy and envy will affect your life. And that is not a good feeling at all. I believe that the people in the middle of the scale live the happiest lives. There have been numerous cases where people that won in the lotteries have ended their lives due to envy and jealousy from their friends and family. Where they thought winning a lot of money would make them happier, while it only magnified their problems.

Empathy

In Design Thinking, empathy is a crucial part of the process. The ability to feel compassion for other human beings. To understand their problems, feelings, and emotions and to share their pain, grief, happiness or sadness. I know for a fact that I could be much more empathic and that is something I will improve. See the video below that shows what empathy is:

We saw this video in Dubai, which almost made me cry (we were in a particular mood..):

There’s so much going on in that video. Mo Cheeks felt empathy with the girl singing the national anthem, and he could feel compassion since he had a daughter at that age.

Things change when you get a child, for me that has a daughter who is seven months, I can relate to the video above. You might not.

What characterizes a great leader?

We did a session where everyone in the room in Dubai explained what a great leader is for them. The list included:

  • Good listener
  • Empathic
  • Understanding
  • Good motivator
  • + more

Most of the points we as leadership potentials defined as a great leader had nothing to do with “IQ.” Most of them had everything to do with “EQ,” emotional intelligence. It is mindblowing that we do not learn more about emotional intelligence during school, and that all businesses focus on “IQ” when hiring, not “EQ.” I believe that is skewed and is important to reflect upon.

Mindfulness

We also learned how to be more mindful. They encouraged us to use 30 minutes to sit quietly, close our eyes, focusing on the now. Breathing slowly and try to get as calm as possible. There’s scientific research on how mindfulness can help you become more happier, healthier and more successful:

And then one of the many guides on mindfulness:

Communication

We did a session where we were paired up to use mindfulness to listen and repeat. A was given 6 minutes to talk about a challenge at work, B was given 3 minutes to repeat what he/she heard, A was then given 2 minutes to clarify what B might have misinterpreted, B was then finally given 2 minutes to repeat what A clarified. This was a session that made me realize how easy it is to misinterpret. This can be used in every aspect of your life. It is so easy to misunderstand what a person is saying or meaning, so try to ask a question after a discussion: “Did I understand you right, that you want…” or “Could you please clarify what you meant by…”.

Writing

A professor of culture and psychology from South Korea gave us a session on writing. How writing in a notebook can help you learn better and understand what was communicated. From now on, I’ll always bring a notebook in meetings and write with my hand. Then I’ll add the written information to my computer later on.

Emotions

We often say: “I am angry.” That is a big mistake. We are not angry, but we do feel anger. So whenever you “are angry, sad, or irritated,” say in your head that you are “feeling angry, because..” and you will be able to control your emotions in a much more sufficient manner. Do not let the feeling itself take over who you are. You are not your feelings, you simply feel them and they will pass.

And Finally, you have the Siberian Railroad: SBNRR: Stop, Breathe, Notice, React, Respond.

 

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How I Made It: Multimillion Dollar Cash Flow

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Please excuse the image. It’s not a picture of me nor my car. I own a BMW 318 2009 model with a car seat in the back for our seven months old daughter. It’s been some time since I last published a post on Hacked.com. I want to let you know that I’m going to be more active in the coming months. I’ve just had too many things on my plate, from my Digital Trainee job at Wilhelmsen to Hacked.com, CryptoCoinsNews, MoneyMakers, and family. I want to explain how I’ve managed to create a company with a multimillion-dollar cashflow. Remember, I’ve spent more than nine years on reaching my current level. I’ve had multiple failures, I’ve lost hundreds of thousands of dollars, but I’ve also made a lot of money and recognition.

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When I was 16 years old, I started my first company which I registered on my mom. I called it for “Limitless Juggernaut, ” and it was a clothing line that I started to sell in Tønsberg (a small city in Norway). I managed to get my clothes in one shop in Tønsberg, but it did not catch on. I think I sold five to ten pieces and ended up with a loss of $5000. I worked as a phone seller to make the money I spent on my micro startup. In 2008, when I was 18, I started a phone import business where I imported phones from China and sold it on Norway’s “ebay.” I managed to make $3500 in profit each month while attending high school. There was a guy in Oslo, the capital of Norway, that wanted to get into the phone businesses with me. I was young and naive; I put too much trust in a stranger that ended up hustling me. He gained control of my stock, and I transferred some money to him, then I never heard back. I decided to shut the business down.

In 2009 I started studying Entrepreneurship and Business at a college in Oslo. That’s when I founded MyGoodAct which was one of the first crowdfunding platforms for social causes. During four years the platform raised more than 1.5 million USD to different social causes. I managed to sign up the most significant NGOs in Norway, but the main issue was to establish a positive cash flow for the startup. Even though we won awards, was funded by some larger companies and organizations, we never really got the traction we needed. I decided to shut MyGoodAct down in 2015.

In 2013, when I was working part-time for an NGO, I discovered Bitcoin (Cyprus chaos was blowing up the Bitcoin price and made it to the news). I fell in love with the digital currency, mostly due to its deflationary functions. I was sick of the fundamentals of our economy, with fraction banking and the private FED. At that time, there were few news sites for Bitcoin, so I started CryptoCoinsNews. I started writing two to three articles per day, posted stories on bitcointalk.org and Reddit. After a couple of months, the site had 100 to 300 visitors per day, and I managed to secure one advertiser that paid one bitcoin per month for the top banner. After that, I had some funds to pay other writers with, so I started to recruit writers. The site grew, I got more advertisers that paid a fixed fee per banner on a monthly basis. Today, CCN is one of the largest bitcoin news sources in the world. Last month, I bought CCN.COM for 150 000 USD, and we are doing a complete redesign of the site and hiring more full-time writers. I want to make CCN the world leader in cryptocurrency news, just like Marketwatch.com is for stocks.

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I bought Hacked.com in 2014 for $50 000. I saw the domain on Flippa.com, and I had profits from my previous bitcoin investments. I had no plan for the domain; I just thought it was the coolest domain I’ve ever seen available. I was up 24 hours bidding on the frigging domain while watching The 100 on Netflix. The other bidder I was bidding against only increased the price with 50 to 100 USD at the end of each auction period, which made the auction extend with another hour. I became so tired and angry at that tactic, so I contacted the seller and told him that I’d exit the auction if we do not end this soon. I was ready to bump it up with $5 000 or even $10 000 just to be done with it. The seller added a buy now price at $50 000, and I was able to purchase it before the other bidder.

We started Hacked.com as a technology news site, at one point, we had a trending story on Reddit that made it to the front page of Reddit.com. It generated almost a million visitors during one day; our servers could not handle the traffic. However, even with one million visitors, we only made $2000 in ad revenue from Adsense. And, you need to keep pumping out extraordinary articles to keep such a momentum. The prices for such articles could be anywhere from $50 to $500. I did not have the funds to keep funding writers and attract better talent, as the site always operated with a loss. After one year, I decided to put Hacked.com on pause.

In 2015 I started Tailored Message that was a news app for youth in Norway, with gamification and a shop. The idea was to make a clone of “Instagram/Reddit” for news and blogs and let the users earn points based on ads in the app that they could spend on products in our in-app store. We launched the app in April 2016, and we got more than 20 000 downloads, just in Norway, and made it to the top 3 most downloaded apps. I spent almost 100 000 USD on the startup, and in the summer of 2016, we secured 200 000 USD in funding including a marketing deal with one of Norway’s largest media companies worth 300 000 USD. I moved into the media company and hired a salesperson. Unfortunately, the marketing deal that was signed by their director was never followed through. I spent almost six months implement the marketing deal that we already had agreed on. The media company always had excuses for why they could not implement it, and we changed the marketing deal two times without any success. The investors I had became worried, and in the winter of 2016, I decided to shut it down, pay the investors back with what was left, and try to focus on something else. I went to a lawyer in Oslo, and he told me that we could sue the media company for our losses, but that it would cost $30 000 and could take a year or two. I was upset, but I did not want to have a lawsuit to define my next year. I backed out.

What I learned from this experience, which was a very tough period in my life (as I hate to disappoint people that put their trust in me), is that you should never depend on a single deal you make with any company. Especially large companies. In large companies, you have so many different opinions, so many shitheads, so many useless persons that only think about themselves and their KPIs. If you are working with large companies, you need backup solutions. I think the best way to run a startup is to be independent, and just gun for it on your own. Fuck the large companies; they are too slow for a startup.

Well, that’s funny. But I was hired in January 2017 by Wilhelmsen, one of the largest shipping companies in the world, as a Digital Trainee. I had lost most of my cash holdings due to Tailored Message, and I needed something more stable to focus on. My wife was pregnant, and we expected our child in April 2017. I’ve never worked fulltime in a large corporation before, and I thought it would be a great experience to learn how it works. Right now I’m working on a 3D print project where Wilhelmsen wants to 3D print ship parts to the maritime industry, which has been and is an amazing project. I have a leading role there, and I’m learning many new things.

I’m a person that need multiple projects to be satisfied. So after working hours at Wilhelmsen, I pivoted Hacked.com into becoming the service you see today, based on subscriptions. I hired a couple of people, and we started small. After a couple of months, we had a positive cash flow, and I could hire more people to take over some of the time-consuming tasks. And now, Hacked.com is probably the largest paid cryptocurrency community in the world. My initial idea with Hacked.com was to educate people in how they can become more independent of the 9-5 job reality most are living in. This is something that I want to focus more on in the coming years. I also want to host conferences and meetups in 2018. I think we can make something great out of Hacked.com and be supportive of each other.

Right now, both CCN and Hacked.com is generating more money than I would ever dream of. It’s now a multimillion-dollar cash flow business. And I think it’s safe to say that I’ve already reached my long-term goal. Of course, we have large expenses, but the profit is still positive and enables me to invest more in the ventures and improve them.

I’m still working as a Digital Trainee at Wilhelmsen, and please understand that I’ve been working nonstop now for the past two years, I’ve never had one full day off. Sometimes I’ve had to work nights because of DDoS attacks, server problems or similar. I’ve employed more people to take some of the daily tasks I’ve had. I’m also focusing on spending more time with my wife and daughter, as I’ve been absent for an extended period. Money, cash flow, and business is not everything, family, friends, and experiences are what you will remember when you are 80 years old. Remember to enjoy your life.

However, I’m still not satisfied. That’s the way I am as a person. Damaged. Entrepreneurial. I continuously want to improve, want to launch better services, give more people the services that they appreciate. Help people reach their full potential. I think there are some good opportunities in the shipping industry, and I may be able to do something fascinating with Wilhelmsen in the coming years.

Focus on what you love to do, and never look back. Don’t let a shitty job bring you down.

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My first experience with Robot Trading: Up $5 000 in Two Weeks

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Since I’m pressed on time with multiple obligations (job, familiy, hacked.com, CCN, MoneyMakers) I decided for a couple of weeks ago to look into robot trading. I wanted to find one or multiple robots to do the trading for me. I ended up with downloading MetaTrader 5 and buying two different robots from their marketplace. I started with 16 000 USD on the trading account, and after two weeks the robots have made me $5 000.

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That’s a whopping 31% increase within 2 weeks…!

My robots usually trade during the night, and I’ve decided to completely trust them. The 16 000 USD is a sum I’m more than happy to lose if I can learn anything from dealing with trading robots.

When that is said, MetaTrader’s interface really “SUCKS”. It’s so bad, I can’t understand why MetaTrader is considered the best trading terminal for robots. Maybe that’s a good business idea for someone out there? Disrupt MetaTrader.

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So, which robots do I use?

I do not want to disclose that just yet, I need to test my robots rigorously before I can recommend any of them. And if this is a money making machine, we can laugh all the way to the bank.

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